C3 Ending FAQ

We’ve gotten some questions about the future of the C3 now that the original challenge has ended. We hope that the below answers some of the common questions we have received.

At the bottom of the page is a second FAQ answering some common questions about the results

  • Will there be another Challenge? When does the next challenge start?
    • Short Answer: There will not be another challenge
    • Long Answer: We have suggested from the beginning that the C3 was a one-time only project to fill time during a global pandemic and to keep us all creating. It was a blast, but our admin team have already been working on this project for more than six months (from conception to wrap up) and our team is tired. The C3 was successful and has done what it needed to do.
      • Our home group, Axed Root, has long held the belief that, simply because and event/project/activity was successful and fun once it doesn’t necessarily follow that it will continue to be fun the second/third/indefinite time it is done. We believe strongly that we should quit while it’s fun and before it becomes a burnout-inducing burden.
      • Kristine, the main admin for this, and one of the co-admins, Vincent, will hopefully be getting married this fall (COVID-willing.) We have a lot of personal projects to finish for that which would be hard to do in combination with the time commitment required to run this challenge.
  • Can I share the C3 page with my kingdom?
    • Certainly! We encourage you to share your accomplishments with others.
    • We will also be emailing the Crown and Kingdom A&S minister of any Kingdom who had a finisher to share with them the accomplishments of their populace. This email will occur as one of the final wrap up actions by the Challenge admins.
  • I didn’t finish during the C3 time period, but now I’m done. Can I contact you to update my project page?
    • Unfortunately, no. We plan to finish all website updates by 2/20 and those are simply to update the winners and to close down the site. Instead, we encourage you to share your finished project on any of the number of SCA facebook groups, on your blog, or to update your local group with what you have accomplished.
  • How long will my pictures be on the website?
    • We purchased the site/domain at the beginning of August during the planning stages of the C3. We’ll keep this up until the end of our current contract, but we will not be renewing that contract. The website will be taken down somewhere near the end of July.
  • How long will the Facebook group be active?
    • We plan on archiving the Facebook group at the conclusion of the challenge, near the beginning of March. This will make it so the group may be viewed, but no new posts may be added to the group.
    • We feel there are a number of Facebook groups out there which cater to SCA Artisans and allow them to share their work. We would be diluting activity to those sites by maintaining a page for an inactive challenge.
  • I’d like to volunteer to run the next C3 so it can keep going! Who do I ask about that?
    • The official C3 will end at the end of February. We will not be hosting another and are not looking for someone else to host one in our name. The reasons are many:
      • The website costs money and we’d like to spend that elsewhere
      • Website maintenance for the C3 takes more time than you likely think and, even if someone were to sponsor the site cost, we don’t feel comfortable letting others have free reign on a site registered in our names.
      • If we’re being honest – this is a lot of work and most people probably don’t fully understand the time commitment it took to run it…. and we didn’t even get to do all the things we’d hoped to at the beginning. If someone else takes on the challenge in our name and, well, it flops, that’s a reflection on us. We’d prefer not to do that.
    • That being said, if you’d like to run your own challenge, you’re welcome to do so and you don’t need our permission (though, if it’s similar to the IRCC challenge run by Realm of Venus, as ours was, be polite and get THEIR permission.) Real talk, though, if you’re wary of doing the project if you don’t have an already existing structure to lean on, you probably don’t have the time for this. Seriously. Admin time (including site maintenance, facebook group moderation, email maintenance, check ins/outs, etc) ran into the hundreds of hours over the last six months. We don’t say this to complain, we say this so that anyone who’s thinking of following this path knows what they’re getting into.
    • Also – we’re happy to give advice or commiserate if you still really want to run a similar challenge.
  • What happens with the release forms I signed at the beginning?
    • First – the part where you agreed to allow the C3 to place them on our website will expire at the end of July when we allow our website to expire.
    • Second – we asked entrants to allow their final submitted pictures to be used for SCA recruitment purposes. As such, for those who agreed, we’ll make those pictures available for our chatelaines to use for various recruitment activities for long after the official challenge has ended. It may be a poster or presentation for new people or in a garb guide to help newer members see the clothing possibilities (always crediting you for your work,) but we thank you all in advance for being willing to lend your work to help us attract more people to our hobby. Our admin team is heavily involved with SCA Iowa, so, spoiler alert, things might show up there.
  • Hi! I’m a chatelaine and I’d like to see about using the photos from this challenge for a project. Who do I ask about that?
    • Email us at admin@calontirclothingchallenge.com and tell us a little more about yourself. We want to be very cautious with the release forms we were provided, so we’ll need to be able to confirm that you are acting in an official capacity before we share things.
For no other reason than I find it adorable, here is my Tua rabbit on her first gotcha day in September.

Results FAQ

  • Why do some divisions have multiple winners and others only have one?
    • The number of winners is based on the number of finishers in each category
    • Our rationale for the number of winners went like this:
      • Up to 4 finishers: 1 prize
      • 5 to 8 finishers: 2 prizes
      • 8+ finishers: 3 prizes
  • How did you determine the winner of the challenge?
    • It was a combination of four scores:
      • Judged finished project score (up to 300 pts for individuals, 325 for groups)
      • Final picture score ( up to 25 points)
      • Bonus Points: (up to 120 points)
      • Deduction points : (up to -30) – these were an addition at the end. Rather than disqualify groups who did not follow the guidelines (the defined four layers, a non-sewn layer, for groups – all members make a significant contribution, etc) we decided to assess a 10 point penalty for each issue. This allowed more people to finish while still keeping it fair for those who did not follow the rules.
  • Wow, Bonus points are nearly half of the final judged score, is that fair?
    • As we have said from the beginning, this challenge was not just about making the best looking outfit at the end, but the hope was that entrants would play along – checking in every month and producing layers every month. While we know of many artisans who can complete a lovely outfit in a rush near the end, the goal here was for the project to be planned and executed over several months, rewarding the ‘slow and steady’ route of project management.
    • We were up front at the beginning that check ins/layer check ins weren’t required until the end, but we also said that those who followed along would receive significant advantages in the final judging — and we were correct. Most divisions were within a 10 point range and almost universally those who followed the bonus points won in their divisions.
    • This was by design, not a flaw in the system.
  • I didn’t get an email with my judge’s comments, how do I get that?
    • Email us at admin@calontirclothingchallenge.com . We’ll forward the email which was auto-sent when your division was announced.
  • My email just had my judge’s comments can I see my final score?
    • Absolutely. As we say in that email, reply to the email asking for your scores and we’ll send them along.
  • Can I see all of the scores in my division?
    • No. We respect the privacy of all entrants
  • What if I get all the people in my division to agree to have them published?
    • Still no.
  • Can we get a final ranking of all those in the division?
    • No. First and foremost we want people to be proud of what they created. Knowing that your project came in last could diminish that pride and we’d rather not risk it.
  • Can I ask for a review of my division’s scores? I really do think my project should have won.
    • All winners are final.
  • Can I make suggestions for the next challenge?
    • There won’t be a next challenge, at least not run by us (see the first FAQ on this page.)